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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 8:54:35 GMT -6
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 26, 2019 9:13:17 GMT -6
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Jul 26, 2019 9:14:42 GMT -6
…I might wanna hurry on getting "Stranger Things" watched...
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Jul 26, 2019 9:20:34 GMT -6
Now I'm curious to see what the future holds for Prime, Disney+/Hulu and HBO Max.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 10:02:27 GMT -6
I think a part of this downturn is because of their treatment of the Marvel shows and fandom. I'm not wishing or hoping Netflix will fail, but they should have handled the cancelations better. They should have taken into account how much people had invested in those shows.
The critics were fickle and two-faced about the Marvel shows. The first seasons of all of those shows, barring Iron Fist and maybe the Punisher, had tons of praise heaped on them. By the second season, time-poor critics who had to sit through 13 hours of programming to write a review, were saying the shows were too long and not innovative enough.
The fans always stuck by the shows. It's too bad the ratings were skewed by johnny and jane-come-lately types who temporarily flocked to the shows because they had a little sizzle in the press.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 26, 2019 10:35:13 GMT -6
I’m feeling more and more like one them will buy all the others until there are only 2, maybe 3. I predict it’s amazon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 11:38:38 GMT -6
I’m feeling more and more like one them will buy all the others until there are only 2, maybe 3. I predict it’s amazon. I don't know that it makes sense for one streaming service to acquire another. Content is the valuable commodity in these new streaming wars. I don't think anyone will be keen to sell that given those conditions. I do foresee a lot of these services being shuddered or turning into static repositories for existing content as opposed to a place where new material is frequently deposited. Amazon makes money from all streaming services, even without owning them. AWS (i.e., Amazon Web Services) is the backbone of most streaming services operations, including Netflix. It's actually in Amazon's best interest if more streaming services which are reliant on their infrastructure begin to appear. aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/There are streaming services that rely on IBM I believe, but they are small in number. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:38:49 GMT -6
Serves them right for cancelling Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders and The Punisher.
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Aug 7, 2019 14:32:07 GMT -6
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 7, 2019 15:37:17 GMT -6
so the company that put blockbuster down for good is going down themselves. Very interesting |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 16:49:25 GMT -6
so the company that put blockbuster down for good is going down themselves. Very interesting This is only the beginning. The streaming wars are shaping up to be one of the most significant conflicts in the history of American corporate conflict. Word on the street is full reboots for all the Marvel/Netflix properties are in the works. Disney doesn't even want to wait until the licenses free up. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 7, 2019 17:06:40 GMT -6
so the company that put blockbuster down for good is going down themselves. Very interesting This is only the beginning. The streaming wars are shaping up to be one of the most significant conflicts in the history of American corporate history. Word on the street is full reboots for all the Marvel/Netflix properties are in the works. Disney doesn't even want to wait until the licenses free up. Can they buy their way out of waiting?
Also, what's up with this $170 million loss related to the fox properties. I don't understand where that number comes from. Clearly Disney made tons of money on films, but they didn't pay to produce the Fox movies, so what loss exactly did they report?
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Aug 7, 2019 19:10:08 GMT -6
Question is now who will end up on top? Disney? Or Amazon?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 22:38:24 GMT -6
This is only the beginning. The streaming wars are shaping up to be one of the most significant conflicts in the history of American corporate history. Word on the street is full reboots for all the Marvel/Netflix properties are in the works. Disney doesn't even want to wait until the licenses free up. Can they buy their way out of waiting?
Also, what's up with this $170 million loss related to the fox properties. I don't understand where that number comes from. Clearly Disney made tons of money on films, but they didn't pay to produce the Fox movies, so what loss exactly did they report?
They probably could buy Netflix out of the Marvel/Netflix show licenses but, I imagine they're trying to be conservative with cash right now. They own the characters, but they don't own the Netflix iterations of them. Why wait? Especially when they need as much content to dominate as possible. The $170 million figure represents the total operational losses of the Fox business unit. There are a lot of factors that contributed to that loss not least of which is the abysmal performance of Dark Phoenix. Other contributing factors were marketing costs for upcoming Fox films and, if we're being honest, the acquisition itself is also to blame. Had the purchase not happened, Fox executives would not have rushed sub-standard product out the door. The $170 million loss is a speeding ticket in the big picture. What really happened is that Disney's earnings overall fell below analyst projections (see the first paragraph below). Depending on how you look at it, Disney didn't lose any money. www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/dark-phoenix-sank-disneys-box-office-despite-avengers-success.html |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 7, 2019 22:50:57 GMT -6
Can they buy their way out of waiting?
Also, what's up with this $170 million loss related to the fox properties. I don't understand where that number comes from. Clearly Disney made tons of money on films, but they didn't pay to produce the Fox movies, so what loss exactly did they report?
They probably could buy Netflix out of the Marvel/Netflix show licenses but, I imagine they're trying to be conservative with cash right now. They own the characters, but they don't own the Netflix iterations of them. Why wait? Especially when they need as much content to dominate as possible. The $170 million figure represents the total operational losses of the Fox business unit. There are a lot of factors that contributed to that loss not least of which is the abysmal performance of Dark Phoenix. Other contributing factors were marketing costs for upcoming Fox films and, if we're being honest, the acquisition itself is also to blame. Had the purchase not happened, Fox executives would not have rushed sub-standard product out the door. The $170 million loss is a speeding ticket in the big picture. What really happened is that Disney's earnings overall fell below analyst projections (see the first paragraph below). Depending on how you look at it, Disney didn't lose any money. www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/dark-phoenix-sank-disneys-box-office-despite-avengers-success.htmlOh wait, so they could reboot the characters anytime they want to? The only thing they would have to wait for is if they wanted to continue to use the Netflix versions specifically?
I did not know that.
What if they did vague continuations, where they recast and do already established versions of the characters so that they are effectively sequels, but never specifically mention any of the Netflix stuff until after the 2 years?
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