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Post by hauntedknight87 on Sept 19, 2019 4:47:41 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 8:48:28 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of Armin's or his Comic Book Cast, but I think he gets this mostly right.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 19, 2019 10:07:32 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of Armin's or his Comic Book Cast, but I think he gets this mostly right. Yeah I totally agree, I don't know why anybody would give this an ounce of credibility at this point.
What's worse is it proves how bad the internet can be. People with small little sites who are desperate for attention will run with any rumor and promote it like it's a fact with clickbaity titles, and it gets spread around as if it's real.
We need to be better than that. If site like Geeks word wild and we've got this covered are the only source, then there's no story. Those guys don't have exclusives on new information. They're rumor mills.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 10:14:01 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of Armin's or his Comic Book Cast, but I think he gets this mostly right. Yeah I totally, I don't know why anybody would give this an ounce of credibility at this point.
What's worse is it proves how bad the internet can be. People with small little sites who are desperate for attention will run with any rumor and promote it likes it's a fact with clickbaity titles, and it gets spread around as if it's real.
We need to be better than that. If site like Geeks word wild and we've got this covered are the only source, then there's no story. Those guys don't have exclusives on new information. They're rumor mills.
Agreed, what is even more absurd is that people think that the MCU's popularity is somehow tied to this preponderance of fake news. People want you to believe that if it ever slows or dies, so will the MCU. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 19, 2019 10:38:33 GMT -6
Yeah I totally, I don't know why anybody would give this an ounce of credibility at this point.
What's worse is it proves how bad the internet can be. People with small little sites who are desperate for attention will run with any rumor and promote it likes it's a fact with clickbaity titles, and it gets spread around as if it's real.
We need to be better than that. If site like Geeks word wild and we've got this covered are the only source, then there's no story. Those guys don't have exclusives on new information. They're rumor mills.
Agreed, what is even more absurd is that people think that the MCU's popularity is somehow tied to this preponderance of fake news. People want you to believe that if it ever slows or dies, so will the MCU. It's pretty much the opposite, the MCU's popularity is why people can't stop talking about it, which for some leads them to start talking about things that just aren't true.
I saw this weird debate Campea had about if the MCU era is over, and the premise actually was fair. Does the popularity drop off after Endgame is a fair question and one I've actually wondered about since way back in phase 2. He was asking if the buzz will wane with the lesser known properties that are coming. But the fact that we're even talking about that shows that the buzz hasn't waned. We really want to know what's going to happen with it, so the conversation itself answers the question being asked.
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Sept 19, 2019 10:42:36 GMT -6
The solution to this is simple:
Cast the character before you announced the show/movie!
Really if you think about it this is all Feige fault.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 19, 2019 10:59:01 GMT -6
The solution to this is simple: Cast the character before you announced the show/movie! Really if you think about it this is all Feige fault. Ehh it's not something that Feige needs to solve. If people are going to wildly speculate, it doesn't hurt anything, it's just sort of amusing to see people pointing to Ronda, because it's a knee jerk reaction type of casting without any thought put into it other than "she's really fit". Feige doesn't need to cast somebody first just to prevent them from doing that. They'll end up casting a good actress who's willing to work the hell out for the part and there are lots of women who could do it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 11:54:13 GMT -6
The solution to this is simple: Cast the character before you announced the show/movie! Really if you think about it this is all Feige fault. Casting isn't a unilateral decision. There are multiple dependencies in the process; studios, management agents, talent, etc. If you wait to announce your show until all of that is resolved, you run the risk of losing momentum. The MCU runs on two things, the fandom and momentum. Healthy speculation isn't a bad thing. I don't enjoy it personally, but if one guy wants to spend his days and nights theorizing on the inner workings of a Hollywood production he knows nothing about --- more power to him. If another guy wants to take the first guy's speculation as truth because he has nice hair or looks smart --- more power to him too. In my view, the first guy is a wannabe, and the second is an idiot. Those who can do, and those who don't do, speculate. There is nothing wrong with either I suppose. This whole cycle starts to get problematic when people start peddling their speculation as truth. They start to whip the fandom into a frenzy and cause divisive, toxic conversations based on lies. It's a waste of time and energy and it makes us all look like infants who can't last one second without mother's milk. If you present your speculation as, well, speculation, you get no complaints from me. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 19, 2019 19:09:20 GMT -6
The solution to this is simple: Cast the character before you announced the show/movie! Really if you think about it this is all Feige fault. Casting isn't a unilateral decision. There are multiple dependencies in the process; studios, management agents, talent, etc. If you wait to announce your show until all of that is resolved, you run the risk of losing momentum. The MCU runs on two things, the fandom and momentum. Healthy speculation isn't a bad thing. I don't enjoy it personally, but if one guy wants to spend his days and nights theorizing on the inner workings of a Hollywood production he knows nothing about --- more power to him. If another guy wants to take the first guy's speculation as truth because he has nice hair or looks smart --- more power to him too. In my view, the first guy is a wannabe, and the second is an idiot. Those who can do, and those who don't do, speculate. There is nothing wrong with either I suppose. This whole cycle starts to get problematic when people start peddling their speculation as truth. They start to whip the fandom into a frenzy and cause divisive, toxic conversations based on lies. It's a waste of time and energy and it makes us all look like infants who can't last one second without mother's milk. If you present your speculation as, well, speculation, you get no complaints from me. That goes on the hall of fame of board posts |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 28, 2019 17:34:33 GMT -6
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Sept 28, 2019 17:53:39 GMT -6
I agree. The change to She-Hulk is a lot less dramatic than what Bruce goes through. It can just be an actress in green makeup.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 18:13:20 GMT -6
I agree. The change to She-Hulk is a lot less dramatic than what Bruce goes through. It can just be an actress in green makeup. In the case of the She-Hulk, the word Hulk is a misnomer. Bruce Banner's transformation is a regression to that of a primitive and monstrous version of himself. Jennifer Walters becomes an idealized version of herself. She-Hulk is a proportionately larger and stronger Homo Sapian female. LotR tech could work here but, I do think some computer enhancement will be needed. The reason that body paint still works at all today is that appliances (either virtual or practical) usually accompany it. |
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Sept 28, 2019 18:33:32 GMT -6
I agree. The change to She-Hulk is a lot less dramatic than what Bruce goes through. It can just be an actress in green makeup. In the case of the She-Hulk, the word Hulk is a misnomer. Bruce Banner's transformation is a regression to that of a primitive and monstrous version of himself. Jennifer Walters becomes an idealized version of herself. She-Hulk is a proportionately larger and stronger Homo Sapian female. LotR tech could work here but, I do think some computer enhancement will be needed. The reason that body paint still works at all today is that appliances (either virtual or practical) usually accompany it. It can be mild computer enhancement. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 29, 2019 5:20:33 GMT -6
I agree. The change to She-Hulk is a lot less dramatic than what Bruce goes through. It can just be an actress in green makeup. In the case of the She-Hulk, the word Hulk is a misnomer. Bruce Banner's transformation is a regression to that of a primitive and monstrous version of himself. Jennifer Walters becomes an idealized version of herself. She-Hulk is a proportionately larger and stronger Homo Sapian female. LotR tech could work here but, I do think some computer enhancement will be needed. The reason that body paint still works at all today is that appliances (either virtual or practical) usually accompany it. Could they simply film the scenes as is and just size adjust her in every scene by 10%? Direct anybody talking to her to look at her hair when talking to her so their eyes line up after they grow her. Or am I thinking too simply? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 16:42:06 GMT -6
In the case of the She-Hulk, the word Hulk is a misnomer. Bruce Banner's transformation is a regression to that of a primitive and monstrous version of himself. Jennifer Walters becomes an idealized version of herself. She-Hulk is a proportionately larger and stronger Homo Sapian female. LotR tech could work here but, I do think some computer enhancement will be needed. The reason that body paint still works at all today is that appliances (either virtual or practical) usually accompany it. Could they simply film the scenes as is and just size adjust her in every scene by 10%? Direct anybody talking to her to look at her hair when talking to her so their eyes line up after they grow her. Or am I thinking too simply? That sounds really good on paper, but I wonder how it will work for big action set prices. |
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