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Post by WeirdRaptor on Jul 18, 2023 17:03:30 GMT -6
Hoping it’s good… I devoured these books when I was a mythology-loving kid ( devoured seems like an appropriately Cronian word choice, funnily enough). I don’t even remember the first movie, except for thinking that it wasn’t good. Didn’t see the second. BTW: They made a musical out of the first book, because they make a musical out of everything these days. I once mocked one particularly bad lyric:It’s a bit dispiriting that the material is real-life Greek gods and that’s all the lyricist could come up with. But all the songs, though they sound more poppy than musical-theater-y, aren’t all terrible. This is kinda an earworm: And the following is a pretty darn decent Sondheim pastiche… OK, the verses are more blatant imitation—of “ Opening Doors”—than pastiche. Still the best song in the show: I wonder how great the temptation was to use Gospel-style music ala the Disney Hercules.
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Sept 19, 2023 11:39:07 GMT -6
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Sept 19, 2023 21:59:31 GMT -6
Looks ironically more cinematic than the first movie from 2010, just without the big names attached as supporting players. This is another production Disney has put a lot of money into, time will tell if it is yet another costly business practice that doesn't pay off.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 1, 2023 16:15:20 GMT -6
Will "Percy Jackson and the Olympians" be successful or will it be another Disney+ one and done like "Willow" and "National Treasure"? It premiers 20 December.
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Dec 1, 2023 17:07:29 GMT -6
Will "Percy Jackson and the Olympians" be successful or will it be another Disney+ one and done like "Willow" and "National Treasure"? It premiers 20 December. I'd assume the latter.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 1, 2023 21:04:53 GMT -6
The Percy Jackson franchise is popular, but not the extent of Harry Potter, Twilight, or The Hunger Games where you will see merchandising and references elsewhere than where it is promoted. I think for the general movie going and television watching public they know of the two movies starring Logan Lerman, neither of which really set the box office on fire or were that well-liked. The friction between longtime readers and series creator Rick Riordan hasn't helped matters, either.
So, no. I don't see much of a success from this.
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Post by blockbusted on Dec 15, 2023 10:05:40 GMT -6
This is a hot take, but I don't mind changing the race/ethnicity of one of the main characters. It's just that I would've kept Annabeth as white for few reasons: 1. Changing a female character's ethnic background is kind of played out - Remember my thread about how white boy/black girl relationship kind of feels old in films because they happen so often? This seems like it's basically repeating that. I personally would've had Grover(?) as black like the film series did and maybe even had Percy Jackson has half or quarter Asian. 2. Magnus Chase - This is the biggest reason. While I haven't read this series for a pretty long time, I feel like Magnus might end up losing something if he's something other than white.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 15, 2023 18:17:33 GMT -6
This is a hot take, but I don't mind changing the race/ethnicity of one of the main characters. It's just that I would've kept Annabeth as white for few reasons: 1. Changing a female character's ethnic background is kind of played out - Remember my thread about how white boy/black girl relationship kind of feels old in films because they happen so often? This seems like it's basically repeating that. I personally would've had Grover(?) as black like the film series did and maybe even had Percy Jackson has half or quarter Asian. 2. Magnus Chase - This is the biggest reason. While I haven't read this series for a pretty long time, I feel like Magnus might end up losing something if he's something other than white. I wouldn't describe that as being a "hot take", considering Annabeth was described as white in the novels and has been depicted as such in illustrated material that acted as companions to the material. I don't think the casting would have been seen as problematic for some people had the source material not described her and other characters' appearances so precisely, and author Rick Riordan hadn't lied to justify the casting of Leah Jeffries, and other actors, saying she (and everyone else whose casting has come to be questioned) resembling "exactly" how he imagined the character(s) to look like, and dismissing any and all criticism as being motivated by racial prejudice and nothing else.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Dec 15, 2023 20:26:28 GMT -6
This is a hot take, but I don't mind changing the race/ethnicity of one of the main characters. It's just that I would've kept Annabeth as white for few reasons: 1. Changing a female character's ethnic background is kind of played out - Remember my thread about how white boy/black girl relationship kind of feels old in films because they happen so often? This seems like it's basically repeating that. I personally would've had Grover(?) as black like the film series did and maybe even had Percy Jackson has half or quarter Asian. 2. Magnus Chase - This is the biggest reason. While I haven't read this series for a pretty long time, I feel like Magnus might end up losing something if he's something other than white. I wouldn't describe that as being a "hot take", considering Annabeth was described as white in the novels and has been depicted as such in illustrated material that acted as companions to the material. I don't think the casting would have been seen as problematic for some people had the source material not described her and other characters' appearances so precisely, and author Rick Riordan hadn't lied to justify the casting of Leah Jeffries, and other actors, saying she (and everyone else whose casting has come to be questioned) resembling "exactly" how he imagined the character(s) to look like, and dismissing any and all criticism as being motivated by racial prejudice and nothing else. See, shit like that is precisely why I’d never watch this show (but since it's on Disney+, that means it'll never get released here on DVD/Blu-ray - and I'm certainly not sad about that, unlike other shows not being released here). I still remember the controversy surrounding Alexandra Daddario not being blonde in the first Percy Jackson movie and it being considered a big deal because it’s her main/defining physical feature from the books. They even tried to rectify this in the sequel by giving her blonde hair. So this author saying he imagined her looking how she does in the show when writing the books is obviously lying or he has something in his brain that imagines characters as completely different-looking to his physical descriptions of the characters in his books.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 15, 2023 21:41:48 GMT -6
I wouldn't describe that as being a "hot take", considering Annabeth was described as white in the novels and has been depicted as such in illustrated material that acted as companions to the material. I don't think the casting would have been seen as problematic for some people had the source material not described her and other characters' appearances so precisely, and author Rick Riordan hadn't lied to justify the casting of Leah Jeffries, and other actors, saying she (and everyone else whose casting has come to be questioned) resembling "exactly" how he imagined the character(s) to look like, and dismissing any and all criticism as being motivated by racial prejudice and nothing else. See, shit like that is precisely why I’d never watch this show (but since it's on Disney+, that means it'll never get released here on DVD/Blu-ray - and I'm certainly not sad about that, unlike other shows not being released here). I still remember the controversy surrounding Alexandra Daddario not being blonde in the first Percy Jackson movie and it being considered a big deal because it’s her main/defining physical feature from the books. They even tried to rectify this in the sequel by giving her blonde hair. So this author saying he imagined her looking how she does in the show when writing the books is obviously lying or he has something in his brain that imagines characters as completely different-looking to his physical descriptions of the characters in his books. Rick Riordan has been on Disney's payroll for a few years now, since 2016, most of his work has been published by Disney Books and a deal is in place where other literary works can be published using his name to boot consumer interests, so he gets some cash from that investment to boot. In 2019, Disney acquired the rights to the Percy Jackson series, making them legally in the right to do whatever it is that they wish to do with it. So, while he may write the stories. Ultimately, they call the shots and make requests he must go with if he wishes the lucrative business relationship continues. And, since JK Rowling became a figure of controversy for her views on certain topics, Riordan has taken the opportunity to be "the anti-JK Rowling" and has been virtue signaling to present the image of an ultra-progressive writer whose work will be timeless, and no one will seek to paint him in a negative light. So, he uses strawman arguments to make the critics look like the worst sort of people, and in the process only alienates and loses fans. There's certainly an ego there, and one has to wonder how inflated or deflated it could be if the Disney+ is a flop or a hit.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 20, 2023 11:24:59 GMT -6
First 2 episodes are now streaming. Disney+ did the, way too common, last minute schedule change and dropped the show yesterday.
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Dec 20, 2023 18:01:23 GMT -6
First 2 episodes are now streaming. Disney+ did the, way too common, last minute schedule change and dropped the show yesterday. Anybody else remember when studios would just pick a release date and stick to it? I'm not even sure Pepperridge Farms remembers.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 21, 2023 9:34:27 GMT -6
I watched the first episode last night. It was fine. I'll get to the second episode sometime this weekend.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 27, 2023 11:51:38 GMT -6
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