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Post by WeirdRaptor on Oct 9, 2023 21:35:43 GMT -6
According to CanWeHaveToast, Frank Castle factors into the series because he doesn't like how the police have decided to use his symbol while on duty. I figured it was a matter of time before they would try this out in live-action since Castle has been made into such a problematic character and how often his symbol is misused by people. I do think a good story could be told about a group of rookies on the force whose mental health went on decline during The Blip period and began to fancy The Punisher's approach to crime fighting as law and order were hard to establish with half of the world's population gone, so they got the impression that fear and pain gain respect. Unfortunately, though, I don't think this will be the route taken. How is it possible for every new piece of news to kill my interest in all their upcoming projects? I don't think I've heard a single thing about any of them that makes me want to see any of them. Holy shit, were the good points of Phase 4 complete accidents? |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Oct 9, 2023 21:38:57 GMT -6
According to CanWeHaveToast, Frank Castle factors into the series because he doesn't like how the police have decided to use his symbol while on duty. I figured it was a matter of time before they would try this out in live-action since Castle has been made into such a problematic character and how often his symbol is misused by people. I do think a good story could be told about a group of rookies on the force whose mental health went on decline during The Blip period and began to fancy The Punisher's approach to crime fighting as law and order were hard to establish with half of the world's population gone, so they got the impression that fear and pain gain respect. Unfortunately, though, I don't think this will be the route taken. How is it possible for every new piece of news to kill my interest in all their upcoming projects? I don't think I've heard a single thing about any of them that makes me want to see any of them. Holy shit, were the good points of Phase 4 complete accidents? It's a real Journey into Mystery and I'm sure it is a Tale to Astonish. |
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Oct 9, 2023 21:41:01 GMT -6
How is it possible for every new piece of news to kill my interest in all their upcoming projects? I don't think I've heard a single thing about any of them that makes me want to see any of them. Holy shit, were the good points of Phase 4 complete accidents? It's a real Journey into Mystery and I'm sure it is a Tale to Astonish. I'm sure there will be a million documentaries about this fall from grace someday. I'll probably watch and enjoy when they roll around, but now right, I'd just be too depressed. For DC, too. There was a time when I would have relished in watching so many DC projects flop at the high point of the rivalry. Now it's just sad, because when push comes to shove, I love both Marvel and DC. |
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Oct 10, 2023 6:40:22 GMT -6
I don't know, a story revolving cops misusing his logo and Frank Castle being pissed about it doesn't sound bad to me.
I mean technically a cop shouldn't be using it anyway, since it's a logo associated with a vigilante.
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Oct 10, 2023 9:36:52 GMT -6
I don't know, a story revolving cops misusing his logo and Frank Castle being pissed about it doesn't sound bad to me. I mean technically a cop shouldn't be using it anyway, since it's a logo associated with a vigilante. I'm just so tired of all this "#DefundThePolice" and "Call Cops Are Bastards" crap. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 10, 2023 9:45:11 GMT -6
Doesn't even make sense. Castle uses his logo to symbolize the fact that he murders huge numbers of people (deserving or not, it's illegal). So, how exactly would cops be "misusing it"? The MCU really needs to do a better job of thinking their social messages all the way through before forcing them into their shows.
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Oct 10, 2023 9:48:26 GMT -6
Doesn't even make sense. Castle uses his logo to symbolize the fact that he murders huge numbers of people (deserving or not, it's illegal). So, how exactly would cops be "misusing it"? The MCU really needs to do a better job of thinking their social messages all the way through before forcing them into their shows. I know I've brought this up twice recently, but this reminds me of that bitter old guy in Falcon and the Winter Soldier saying that "No one will ever accept a black Captain America." In 2021 (2023 in-universe). Like, what was up with that show pretending it was still the 1920s for black communities? |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 10, 2023 9:59:20 GMT -6
Doesn't even make sense. Castle uses his logo to symbolize the fact that he murders huge numbers of people (deserving or not, it's illegal). So, how exactly would cops be "misusing it"? The MCU really needs to do a better job of thinking their social messages all the way through before forcing them into their shows. I know I've brought this up twice recently, but this reminds me of that bitter old guy in Falcon and the Winter Soldier saying that "No one will ever accept a black Captain America." In 2021 (2023 in-universe). Like, what was up with that show pretending it was still the 1920s for black communities? The powers that be in Hollywood believe a lot of these zombie lies or, at least, they want other people to believe them. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 10, 2023 10:22:47 GMT -6
Doesn't even make sense. Castle uses his logo to symbolize the fact that he murders huge numbers of people (deserving or not, it's illegal). So, how exactly would cops be "misusing it"? The MCU really needs to do a better job of thinking their social messages all the way through before forcing them into their shows. I know I've brought this up twice recently, but this reminds me of that bitter old guy in Falcon and the Winter Soldier saying that "No one will ever accept a black Captain America." In 2021 (2023 in-universe). Like, what was up with that show pretending it was still the 1920s for black communities? Also, the MCU needs to stop portraying cops as the bad guys. There have been quite a few examples of this in phases 4 and 5 already. If this show doubles down on it the MCU is going to lose more support. |
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Post by WeirdRaptor on Oct 10, 2023 10:27:15 GMT -6
I know I've brought this up twice recently, but this reminds me of that bitter old guy in Falcon and the Winter Soldier saying that "No one will ever accept a black Captain America." In 2021 (2023 in-universe). Like, what was up with that show pretending it was still the 1920s for black communities? Also, the MCU needs to stop portraying cops as the bad guys. There have been quite a few examples of this in phases 4 and 5 already. If this show doubles down on it the MCU is going to lose more support. Yeah, when push comes to shove, even if someone is not a big fan of the police, or at least is critical of some of their conduct or policies, they're the ones people call in the case of an emergency. They're the ones practically leaping from their patrol cars and rushing headfirst into potentially fatal confrontation to save our sorry asses. |
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Oct 10, 2023 13:43:41 GMT -6
I don't know, a story revolving cops misusing his logo and Frank Castle being pissed about it doesn't sound bad to me. I mean technically a cop shouldn't be using it anyway, since it's a logo associated with a vigilante. I'm just so tired of all this "#DefundThePolice" and "Call Cops Are Bastards" crap. I get it. Maybe they could make it like a rogue cop that gets inspires by the punisher and decides to become just like him and Frank is like "oh Hell no! That's my schitick!" |
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Oct 10, 2023 13:53:36 GMT -6
Or since it's a Daredevil series, maybe they'll do a courte episode where Frank Castle sues the police using his logo for copy right infringement?
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Oct 10, 2023 15:25:44 GMT -6
I don't know, a story revolving cops misusing his logo and Frank Castle being pissed about it doesn't sound bad to me. I mean technically a cop shouldn't be using it anyway, since it's a logo associated with a vigilante. I see it as questionable because if we are to believe this is the same continuity as the original series, then it doesn't make sense for the NYPD officials to idolize Castle after his trial in season two. This is why I think if anything they should be rookies who joined the force not long after the events of season two and began to positively misinterpret Castle's character and methods during The Blip. |
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Oct 10, 2023 15:31:42 GMT -6
I don't know, a story revolving cops misusing his logo and Frank Castle being pissed about it doesn't sound bad to me. I mean technically a cop shouldn't be using it anyway, since it's a logo associated with a vigilante. I see it as questionable because if we are to believe this is the same continuity as the original series, then it doesn't make sense for the NYPD officials to idolize Castle after his trial in season two. This is why I think if anything they should be rookies who joined the force not long after the events of season two and began to positively misinterpret Castle's character and methods during The Blip. I have a feeling that we might be seeing a "soft reboot" with Daredevil. There's already questionable continuity issues with Kingpin being superhuman now. So i wouldn't be surprised if they ignore the stuff from The Punisher series. Hell i feel like they're going to sanitize the punisher any way, so ignoring the netflix stuff wouldn't surprise me. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Oct 10, 2023 22:06:22 GMT -6
I see it as questionable because if we are to believe this is the same continuity as the original series, then it doesn't make sense for the NYPD officials to idolize Castle after his trial in season two. This is why I think if anything they should be rookies who joined the force not long after the events of season two and began to positively misinterpret Castle's character and methods during The Blip. I have a feeling that we might be seeing a "soft reboot" with Daredevil. There's already questionable continuity issues with Kingpin being superhuman now. So i wouldn't be surprised if they ignore the stuff from The Punisher series. Hell i feel like they're going to sanitize the punisher any way, so ignoring the netflix stuff wouldn't surprise me. I anticipate that it will be something of a soft reboot, but I get the feeling they will be trying their best to sell the nostalgia of the original program to create interest. I can anticipate some confusion and there being enough noise to cross meme territory. |
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